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Dear Compass Bible Church:

I have a favor.

Please stop.

I’ve seen this playbook 1,000 times before in 1,000 different places. I’ve heard all the lines—”It’s really fun!” and “We’re gonna have ice cream!” and “It’s a bunch of kids goofing around!” and “Bring friends if you want!” and “We’re all just gathering to play some volleyball!” You know what you’re doing, I know what you’re doing. To be blunt, it’s bullshit. And, I’d wager, un-Christ-like (as in, were Jesus here would he want his teachings reduced to Amway-like tactics?). Why, I recently saw this on your website and wanted to vomit …

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Let me pause to get this straight: You brag—brag!?—of “evangelizing every high school”? Like, you’re proud of sending your young people after my young people? You like the idea of corrupting the free-from-religious-dogma space that should be public education by peddling your ideas to the green masses when parents aren’t around to serve as buffers? You think it’s appropriate to use free lunches (“Hey, want free pizza?” Sure!) to woo impressionable kids? I want to repeat that: You use the promise of free food to sell God? How friggin’ sad and pathetic is that. How inappropriate; how wrongheaded; how … weird and creepy and cult-like.

My daughter is 13. She’s a great kid. A great, great kid. She’s strong and smart and—I’m proud to say—sees through your nonsense. She’s also been raised to embrace people for who they are; to see differences as a beautiful thing. Before you and yours came along, she never gave the selling of faith a moment’s thought. We’re Jewish. You’re Christian. You’re Muslim. You’re agnostic. Etc … etc. Yawn, whoopee, no biggie. Live and let live.

Now, however, she has her guard up. That’s on you.

One more thing: My daughter is the great-granddaughter of a Holocaust victim. Her name was Johanna Baer. During World War II she was killed in Auschwitz at the age of 56. Feel free to read about her. Here’s a photo, with her husband …

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When you come after us, you come after her. You come after everything she died for. You come after a group of people who have survived for thousands of years despite the repeated efforts to exterminate. You come after our pride, our dignity, our history.

To you and yours, it’s almost like sport.

To us, it’s an ugly violation.

It’s also survival.

Back off.

— Jeff

PS: On a side note, I have yet to meet a member of your church who didn’t/doesn’t support Donald Trump. Perhaps, instead of focusing on swaying Jewish and Muslim kids with pizza and overnights, you ask the collective why you’ve supported a man dead set on ruining the environment, damning immigrants, mocking those who can’t defend themselves.

13 replies on “Dear Church”

I agree with everything you said here. However, he is going through Christian clubs which are allowed in public schools. Unless he is trying to proselytize out side of members of the club then I would say it might be a different story. If so it should be put to a stop.

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I don’t think Jeff is making a legal argument about the Christian group’s right to proselytize. He’s just arguing it’s obnoxious.

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I love your stuff, own your books, and for the record, I’d go out of my way to avoid their church outreach event but this was mean spirited, bigoted trash.

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Wow. Judgmental much? You want to persuade them to your way of thinking but don’t want them to persuade you to your way of thinking?

First you could teach your daughter (and yourself) to think more critically and carefully about the world. Second, if that fails, you could just say no and move on. But this kind of hate has no place in a civil society.

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Next time, read and try to comprehend. He’s expressly NOT trying to persuade anyone to his way of thinking; he obviously HAS taught his daughter critical thinking; kids in school may try to find it hard to “just say no and move on”, peer pressure, along with wanting to belong, being extremely powerful influences; your casual use of the word “hate” reeks of “religious discrimination”, while true hate against people of different creeds, colors, and religions abound in this world.

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I did read and comprehend. You obviously didn’t, and you obviously haven’t thought critically. He is trying to persuade a church to agree with him that they should not invite people to things, particularly his daughter. And he hasn’t taught his daughter to think critically or she would be prepared to handle this. In fact, were he to think critically about this world, he would understand that the world cannot be explained apart from God, Christ, and the Bible. Those things obviously take a bit more understanding that you or most others are willing to put into it, but it isn’t hard.

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Jeff has taught his daughter that when people come with ice
cream & candy to tell her that it would be better is she wasn’t Jewish, the best response is “No thanks. Leave me alone. I like being Jewish.”
LT’s response is to call that “hate.”

Jeff asks us to remember his grandparents’ history, and how
they were murdered because some thought the world would be better without Jews.He asks us to consider that history when implying, as proselytizing inherently does, that it would be better if Jews stopped being Jewish.
LT’s response it to asserts the superiority of Christianity.(At least the most logical takeaway I can see in the statement that “the world cannot be explained apart from God, Christ, and the Bible.”)

Thank you LT. You’ve proven Jeff’s point.

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A little closer reading and thinking would benefit you.

The hate is Jeff’s absurd likening biblical evangelism to the Holocaust. Coming from a Jew, that is astoundingly ignorant and inexcusable in this day and age, particularly for a Jew. To accuse Christians of being like Nazi’s is so highly offensive is deserves no place in a civil society. We can talk about the merits or demerits of having rational conversations about the deepest things of life, but no society, indeed no individual, should tolerate the use of the Holocaust in such a disrespectful and demeaning way.

According to Christ himself, who was a Jew, he was the one every Jew was looking for and which every Jew should believe in. True Judaism is Christianity. To ignore that is to miss the whole point of what it meant to be a Jew. As Christ said, “You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.” He showed over and over again how the Jewish Scriptures pointed to him. To refuse to believe Christ is to refuse to believe the Jewish Scriptures.

But that is a side issue to main point, which is primarily that Jeff’s hate speech has no place in civil society. To liken Christians to Nazi’s is either woefully ignorant or maliciously evil.

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>> True Judaism is Christianity. To ignore that is to miss the whole point of what it meant to be a Jew.<<
Just about every rabbi on the planet with disagree you. Certainly the one I grew up with would.

Further, Jeff did not "liken" the Compass Bible Church to Nazis. He said that asking his family to stop being Jewish disrespects the memory of his relatives who died for being Jewish.

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Yes, the Rabbis disagree. But that’s irrelevant. The point is that the one who knew the OT the best, Jesus himself, said that the OT pointed to him and the Jews refused (and still refuse) to accept that truth.

Yes, Jeff did liken the church to Nazis. I believe he has edited his post because there was a line in it about trying to get Jews to stop being Jews. He invoked the Nazis in comparison to this. That was offensive to any thinking person and offensive to the history of the Jews.

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>>Yes, the Rabbis disagree. But that’s irrelevant.>>

No—what Rabbis and Jews think is extremely relevant to what Judaism
is and how it is practiced.

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True story – my older brother was invited to join a Baptist youth group , the “Royal Ambassadors”.
Not only did they get him they also got his beer, cigarettes, foul mouth and a general disdain for anyone in authority. He “converted” a few Ambassadors to his way of thinking. He was in junior high at the time ( 7th -8th grade).
A couple of years later all of the boys in my 7th grade class were invited to join except for one. Me. I didn’t blame them.
By the way my brother grew up to be a pretty good adult and a good father. I also have known and liked several Baptists.

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Compass Bible Church is the very definition of the word ‘cult’. They are rather gross. and LT is too chicken to reveal their real identity, they’re likely a Compass minion.

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